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A pro-abortion physician refused to answer U.S. Sen. Josh Hawley’s (R-Missouri) simple question, “Can men get pregnant?” during a U.S. Senate Health, Education, Labor & Pensions (HELP) hearing Wednesday focused on protecting women from abortion drugs.
In her prepared testimony, Nisha Verma, M.D., M.P.H., FACOG – the Democrats sole witness for the hearing – touted her credentials:
I am a double board-certified, fellowship trained, obstetrician and gynecologist and fellow with Physicians for Reproductive Health. I provide full-spectrum ob/gyn care in Georgia and Massachusetts, meaning that I provide everything from pap smears and cancer screenings, to delivering babies and supporting patients postpartum, to providing contraception, abortion, and miscarriage care.
Presenting information on abortion-inducing drug mifepristone, Verma said she focuses on “facts” and “science.”
“The fact is: the science on mifepristone’s safety and effectiveness is longstanding and settled,” she testified.
Despite what she provides as her qualifications and the value she places on “the science,” Verma would not answer Hawley’s simple question. Instead, she gushed forth with a host of verbal manipulations in an apparent attempt to deny the biological fact of binary sex.
“Do you think men can get pregnant?” Hawley asked her.
“I do take care of patients with different identities,” she replied. “I take care of many women. I take care of people with different identities … I wasn’t sure where you were going with that [question].”
The exchange continued:
Hawley: “Well, the goal is just the truth. So, can men get pregnant?”
Verma: “I’m not really sure what the goal of the question –”
Hawley: “The goal is, just to establish a biological reality. You just said a moment ago that science and evidence should control, not politics. So let’s just test that proposition. Can men get pregnant?”
Verma: “I take care of people with many identities … I also think yes-no questions like this are a political tool –”
Hawley: “No. Yes-no questions are about the truth, Doctor. Let’s not make a mockery of this proceeding. This is about science and evidence … The United States Supreme Court just heard arguments yesterday at great length on this question. This is not a hypothetical question. This is not theoretical. It affects real people in their real lives. And you’re here as an expert, called by the other side as an expert, and you’ve been telling us that … you’re a doctor, and you follow the science and the evidence. So I just want to know, based on the science, can men get pregnant? That’s a yes-or-no question.”
Verma: “I think, I think you’re trying to reduce the complexity –”
Hawley: “I’m not … it’s not complex. I’m trying to get to an answer, and I’m trying to test, frankly, your veracity as a medical professional and as a scientist. Can men get pregnant?”
Verma: “I think you’re also conflating male and female –”
Hawley: “This is extraordinary. No, I’m not conflating male and female. They’re two different things. There’s biological men and there’s biological women.”
“And for the record, it’s women who get pregnant, not men,” Hawley said as the exchange continued. “We are here about the safety of women, and science that shows that this abortion drug causes adverse health events in 11% of cases. That’s 22 times greater than the FDA label – another fact you haven’t acknowledged, and yet you won’t even acknowledge the basic reality that biological men don’t get pregnant.”
“There’s a difference between biological men and biological women,” Hawley asserted. “I just, I don’t know how we can take you seriously and your claims to be a person of science, if you won’t level … on this basic issue. I thought we were past all of this. Frankly, I can’t believe we’re still here talking about this.”
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